Vindication?

What do you guyz think? Is this a worthy talent, are bosses really hindered when debuffed with vidication? Does it help in heroics?

I know i could get this ablity buy saking a bit of +hit but... is it worth it>
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Last I heard anything about Vindication it was that it "Works on things you're not worried about, and doesn't work on things you are."
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Me, LOL!

What Lore said. Every boss in the game is immune to it. Most of the mobs in raid instances are immune to it, and some of the tougher mobs in the normal instances are immune to it.

In short, it's an absolutely useless talent.
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Shanefalco - 70 Human Paladin - Dragonmaw US

If you want the point repeated a bit, Vindication was previously discussed in this thread:

http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/viewtopic.php?t=1429
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It works on a few elite mobs in heroics, which helps, but not enough to really matter.

It's mostly a weak pvp talent. And not because -15% str/agi is super great for pvp, but because adding an extra magic debuff that your opponents have to cleanse is beneficial.

It's buffed on the WotLK servers to -15% to ALL stats. If it remains buffed, it'll be an amazing pvp talent mostly for the -15% stamina, but still not really a prot paladin talent.
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Ok thanks guyz.
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Lore, can you get your contacts on the inside to take a nice look at buffing vindication to become our demo shout/tclap substitute?
I've tried to make posts about that here and on main (ugh) wow pally forums before.
The fact it does not work on things that matter should be a red flag that it needs to be fixed/improved/changed to be of use for something other than ret pvp.
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Mavrix
BE Tankadin
Dalaran

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Dalaran&n=Mavrix