Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

astreiker

Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:39 pm

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

Looks like the Items out of the new 5 man heroic are being hotfixed to iLvl 219 from the original iLvl 213.

The mmo db has the old and new versions on the same page, have not found anywhere else that lists the new iLvl 219 stats correctly. Need to update list for these changes. If it changes anything.

Tank Shoulders
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47514/regal-aurous-shoulderplates/

Tank Helm
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47497/helm-of-the-crestfallen-challenger/

Tank Sword
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47500/peacekeeper-blade/

Tank Ring
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47243/mark-of-the-relentless/

Tank Neck
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47566/the-warlords-depravity/

Raenac

Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:58 pm

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

Nadir wrote:The armory has been updated with a good number of AC drops, including some interesting things like an ilvl 272 cape and a real tanking weapon. I perhaps differ from Petrus in that I tend to favor armor and I believe that we only need to pick up a maximum of four tier pieces. My suggestion for BIS based on current information:

(258) Tier 9 Head, Shoulders, Gloves, Chest
(258) Legs: Legplates of Feverish Dedication #T9 legs are the weakest link due to lack of dodge or parry
(258) Wrist: Bracers of the Shieldmaiden
(258) Feet: Dawnbreaker Sabatons
(258) Waist: Girdle of Bloodied Scars
(272) Back: Magni's Resolution #Looks like the "tribute" reward
(258) Neck: The Arbiter's Muse
(245) Ring: Clutch of Fortification #There's an ilvl 258 ring with more STA and avoidance, but no armor
(245) Ring: Band of the Twin Val'kyr
(258) Shield: Forlorn Barrier
(245) Main hand: Crusader's Glory #I suspect Blizzard made a mistake and forgot to implement the ilvl 258 version, so there might be another upgrade out there
(245) Ranged: Libram of Defiance
(258) Trinket: Satrina's Impeding Scarab
(226) Trinket: Heart of Iron #wonder if you can wear the ilvl 245+258 Satrina's at the same time?

Enchanting/gemming for pure STA plus one purple gem, the fully raid buffed stats come out to:
57,230 HP
34,241 Armor
67.50% avoidance

From post I made on Theck's thread

http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=47506 new tanking weapon, tribute chest.

Petrus

Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:06 pm

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

Thanks for the links, guys - I'll include them in the next update. Anyone got drop location info for any of those 5-man drops?

KysenMurrin

Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:10 pm

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

The armory seems to have all of the drop locations now. Looks like Confessor and Eadric share part of their loot tables.

http://www.wowarmory.com/dungeons1.xml

The Heroic 5-man gear still has the low weapon dps and armor values, I think.

Nikachelle

Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:14 pm

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

I'd also like to add my thank you for updating your list. Very happy that I didn't have to sit there and compile it myself. So THANK YOU!

Petrus

Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:30 pm

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

I figured out the whole 213->219 thing on Tuesday, so all of those items have been re-ranked. Funny that the Helm of the Crestfallen Challenger is from a heroic 5man and significantly better than any naxx25 helm.

Nadir

Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:55 pm

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

Raenac wrote:
From post I made on Theck's thread

http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=47506 new tanking weapon, tribute chest.

Hmm, weird. Maybe the ilvl 245 one is a different type of sword line entirely or has incorrect itemization? The 258 one you linked doesn't have any bonus armor.

Edit: Alright, MMO's database was finally updated, looks like Crusader's is a separate sword line from the one you linked.

Crusader's Glory ilvl 245 is from heroic mode Anub'arak-10
Crusader's Glory ilvl 232 is from normal mode Anub'arak 10

Beornus

Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:16 pm

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

Bara, there is a master list sequence issue on the legs, it goes to 8 and then starts again at 6. Am trying to ascertain whether my Bolstered Leg are 6 or closer to 10!

Meyrinn

Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:51 pm

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

Nadir wrote:The armory has been updated with a good number of AC drops, including some interesting things like an ilvl 272 cape and a real tanking weapon. I perhaps differ from Petrus in that I tend to favor armor and I believe that we only need to pick up a maximum of four tier pieces. My suggestion for BIS based on current information:

(258) Tier 9 Head, Shoulders, Gloves, Chest
(258) Legs: Legplates of Feverish Dedication #T9 legs are the weakest link due to lack of dodge or parry
(258) Wrist: Bracers of the Shieldmaiden
(258) Feet: Dawnbreaker Sabatons
(258) Waist: Girdle of Bloodied Scars
(272) Back: Magni's Resolution #Looks like the "tribute" reward
(258) Neck: The Arbiter's Muse
(245) Ring: Clutch of Fortification #There's an ilvl 258 ring with more STA and avoidance, but no armor
(245) Ring: Band of the Twin Val'kyr
(258) Shield: Forlorn Barrier
(245) Main hand: Crusader's Glory #I suspect Blizzard made a mistake and forgot to implement the ilvl 258 version, so there might be another upgrade out there
(245) Ranged: Libram of Defiance
(258) Trinket: Satrina's Impeding Scarab
(226) Trinket: Heart of Iron #wonder if you can wear the ilvl 245+258 Satrina's at the same time?

Enchanting/gemming for pure STA plus one purple gem, the fully raid buffed stats come out to:
57,230 HP
34,241 Armor
67.50% avoidance

Is there any Hit Rating in this BiS Set? Avoidance and EH are great, but threat will be horrible with 0 hit rating.

Nadir

Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:46 pm

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

Meyrinn wrote:Is there any Hit Rating in this BiS Set? Avoidance and EH are great, but threat will be horrible with 0 hit rating.

0 hit rating and 171 expertise rating. There aren't many viable hit options. The weakest T9 piece has hit rating on it, but doesn't have any dodge or parry. There are hit rating wrists, shoulders, and feet, but you'd have to drop from ilvl 258 to ilvl 245. There aren't any new hit rating cloaks, necks, rings, gloves, chests, heads, swords*, or shields. However, I believe our threat is fine with 0 additional hit rating. You have to remember that there's a boatload of STR (2221 raid buffed) and BV (2156 raid buffed) that we also have to take into consideration.

*You could theoretically use a ilvl 258 DPS 1H with hit rating on it, but Crusader's Glory is vastly superior in terms of physical EH.

Barathorn

Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:44 am

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

Beornus wrote:Bara, there is a master list sequence issue on the legs, it goes to 8 and then starts again at 6. Am trying to ascertain whether my Bolstered Leg are 6 or closer to 10!

I'll check with Petrus Beornus.

[the bolstered leggings while great for hit and def suck at everything else so :wink:

]

anthony

Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:38 am

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

Also i was wondering if the regal auror shoulders from TOTC 5 man heroic are seen as an upgrade from tier 7.25 shoulders, it seems they have more dodge,hp and hit but lose parry so imo i think it is an upgrade but im not sure if overall its seen as better and was wondering what the rest of the community thought of them?

krick

Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:02 pm

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

Is the crazy numbering on the list of rings intentional?

Meloree

Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:28 pm

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

Nadir wrote:The armory has been updated with a good number of AC drops, including some interesting things like an ilvl 272 cape and a real tanking weapon. I perhaps differ from Petrus in that I tend to favor armor and I believe that we only need to pick up a maximum of four tier pieces. My suggestion for BIS based on current information:

(258) Tier 9 Head, Shoulders, Gloves, Chest
(258) Legs: Legplates of Feverish Dedication #T9 legs are the weakest link due to lack of dodge or parry
(258) Wrist: Bracers of the Shieldmaiden
(258) Feet: Dawnbreaker Sabatons
(258) Waist: Girdle of Bloodied Scars
(272) Back: Magni's Resolution #Looks like the "tribute" reward
(258) Neck: The Arbiter's Muse
(245) Ring: Clutch of Fortification #There's an ilvl 258 ring with more STA and avoidance, but no armor
(245) Ring: Band of the Twin Val'kyr
(258) Shield: Forlorn Barrier
(245) Main hand: Crusader's Glory #I suspect Blizzard made a mistake and forgot to implement the ilvl 258 version, so there might be another upgrade out there
(245) Ranged: Libram of Defiance
(258) Trinket: Satrina's Impeding Scarab
(226) Trinket: Heart of Iron #wonder if you can wear the ilvl 245+258 Satrina's at the same time?

Enchanting/gemming for pure STA plus one purple gem, the fully raid buffed stats come out to:
57,230 HP
34,241 Armor
67.50% avoidance

I'm strongly considering two swaps from that list for 10-man heroic (245) items.
Wrists: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47918/drea ... armguards/
Feet: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47952/saba ... ng-vortex/

Net loss of 3 stam, 100 armor, and a bit of avoidance, but gains big in hit.

Otherwise, I completely agree, I value armor very highly, and will probably look at the badge ring over the ilvl258 drop.

--
Meloree, <Edge>, Garona

steadypal

Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:18 pm

Re: Petrus's Master Gear List Discussion Thread

anthony wrote:Also i was wondering if the regal auror shoulders from TOTC 5 man heroic are seen as an upgrade from tier 7.25 shoulders, it seems they have more dodge,hp and hit but lose parry so imo i think it is an upgrade but im not sure if overall its seen as better and was wondering what the rest of the community thought of them?

are these an upgrade over XT shoulders???

1 less def, more dodge, 20 less armor,,, hmm yellow socket with 4 dodge bonus

would a 30stam or 10def 15stam gem make these an upgrade over XT shoulders?