New tanking items in 3.2 (incl t9 paladin set)

Agreed, having items that couple up some avoidence with a hefty amount of block VALUE and not rating is a welcome addition. We simply need barely any block rating these days to reach our "Block Cap". If you have trouble then make sure there's an un-glyphed boomkin in your raid doing insect swarm.

I personally LOVE having some options for combining mitigation and avoidence, there's only so many items in the game with bonus armor, and even then i would prefer to not have to use double armor rings since they occasionally lack defense rating.

Vrimmel wrote:Strangely the sets appear to be exactly the same except the warrior set having 81 more BV. The stats may not be final.

Paladin set iLvl 258

Armor: 10512
Stamina: 922
Str: 622
Def: 390
Dodge: 264
Parry: 132
BV: 429
Hit:62
Exp: 50
Meta: 1
Blue: 3
Yellow: 2
Red: 2
Socket bonuses: 36 stam, 4 dodge


Warrior set iLvl 258
Stamina: 922
Str: 622
Def: 390
Dodge: 264
Parry: 132
BV: 510
Hit: 62
Exp: 50
Meta: 1
Blue: 3
Yellow: 2
Red: 2
Socket bonuses: 36 stam, 4 dodge

Could someone post this to the PTR forum and ask if it's intended that Warriors have 81 more BV while every other stat is equal. Did they get more itemization points than us? Are we underbudget or are they overbudget?

Mathematically that would indicate they got more itemization points. Historically though, that's not completely out of the norm for tier gear. I was doing an assessment of tier gear back when the BV items in naxx were under budgeted and found that tier gear was fairly inconsistent particularly among the caster gear.

Not saying this isn't a valid concern, just that it's not as unusual as one would think.

that set looks awesome.

i might actually wear all of it and i FINALLY like the graphics! To good to be true....?

masterpoobaa wrote:My rating 2.5/5 tops. *sigh*
No actual block rating on the gear either... its all block value.

The fact that there isn't a single point spent on BR makes it a minimum 4/5. Why would you possibly want BR when the crazy stats on the new stuff should easily get you to 102.4?

At the rate they are buffing gear... it seems, that by time we raid Icecrown Citadel they just give us shields that say, "Reduces you chance to be critically hit from any attack by 6%, increase dodge chance to 30%, increases parry chance to 20%, increases block chance to 20%, increases block value to 4000, increases maximum health to 40000, increases strength to 1500, increases armor to 28000 and your Judgements increase your block value by 500 for 10 seconds."


...and we'll be forced to run around naked wearing only a sword and shield. Atleast it'd look better than any tier gear.

Tier 9 gear is ok...but unbalanced. Warriors gain more from Expertise than we do...and for some reason they are getting more BV...

Definitely needs more work.

Would seem a positive thing that warriors tier gives more expertise than ours, considering the fact they actually have use for it whereas its relatively useless for us.

I'm personally loving all the emblem gear there (yay for spending more than 19 emblems for mainspec gear), and am leaning more and more towards having block value coupled with avoidance - as with the new dodge rating calcs, having a hefty amount of block instead of a little extra dodge might work out alright.

However, whats impressed me more is the fact that all these items have a sell price - I sure hope that goes live, and isn't just a ptr thing (Lose ~150g a tier deleting old items )

Gibbz wrote:Would seem a positive thing that warriors tier gives more expertise than ours, considering the fact they actually have use for it whereas its relatively useless for us.

I'm personally loving all the emblem gear there (yay for spending more than 19 emblems for mainspec gear), and am leaning more and more towards having block value coupled with avoidance - as with the new dodge rating calcs, having a hefty amount of block instead of a little extra dodge might work out alright.

However, whats impressed me more is the fact that all these items have a sell price - I sure hope that goes live, and isn't just a ptr thing (Lose ~150g a tier deleting old items )

How could you delete a Tier item?

/looks admiring D3, T4, T5, T6, and T7 in my bank
/wonders why he is always out of bank space despite Frostweave Bags

AT WORK AND CANT SEE. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE T9/9.5 SET BONUSES ARE. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE

How long have you been at work? I guess that might make me post in all caps too. As far as I know, the bonuses have been the following for a couple of weeks.

2 pieces: Decreases the cooldown on your Hand of Reckoning ability by 2 sec and increases the damage done by your Hammer of the Righteous ability by 5%.
4 pieces: Decreases the cooldown on your Divine Protection ability and reduces the duration of Forbearance by 30 sec.

Thanks alot. Sorry about the caps, our system makes us use caps so i forgot it was on til after hit send.

Anyone else starting to get nervous about the lack of new tanking weapons found so far?

There's a new 245 shield which is all kinds of pretty off the first boss of 25 man (continuing a trend that is OBVIOUSLY intentional of putting tank loot on the early bosses - thank you Blizzard, you've finally recognized that your maintanks are the most important people to gear for progression bottlenecks)... but no weapons anywhere yet. Just a 213 weapon in the 5 man, which I hope to god no one but an alt or a re-roll still needs.

Remember when there were DK tanking weapons, and they took them out? Because they intended for the weapon slot to be a threat slot? Remember when there was a 40 stam enchant to weapon, but theyt ook it out because they intended for it to be a threat slot?

I'm a little worried blizz may be seriously considering taking the "tanking weapon" slot out of the game for gear homogenization purposes. Does not want to be using rogue weapons! They blueposted recently that they're trying to find a way to take spellpower plate out, it would be along the same lines.

Also... SERIOUSLY does not want to be gemming for defense again :-\ If new tanking weapons don't come out... I guess I'm begging my guild to go back and farm Sorthalis for me :-\

I hope I'm being needlessly nervous.

Zothor wrote:Anyone else starting to get nervous about the lack of new tanking weapons found so far?

Not really. Things are still not finalized and worrying about them is premature.