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WANTED: Consolidated Theory Threads

Lore
Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:24 pm

WANTED: Consolidated Theory Threads

Consider this a formal request on behalf of the theorycrafting community. There's a TON of theory and speculation flying around at the moment, and it's getting really difficult to keep track of which thread had what numbers about what mechanic's effect on what ability. Things have become a bit helter-skelter, so to speak.

To that end, I am putting forth a call to the theorycrafters of the community, particularly but not restricted to those with beta access, to help us out by putting together threads to serve at least as a starting point for some number-crunching to start figuring out what exactly we're up against in WotLK. Any threads that fit the description, including those that existed prior to this post, will be stickied for easier access.

Ideally, these posts should adhere to the following guidelines:

  • The theory in the thread is on-topic, and not a spinoff from another topic (I'm not going to sticky a thread called "Chicken Nuggets" no matter how much Crushing Blow theory it contains)
  • When possible, the OP should be updated to contain useful information as it develops, so as not to confuse new readers. The respective information should be on the first page at the very least.
  • Obviously, the topic should pertain to Wrath of the Lich King information (this is the WotLK forum after all)

Threads beginning with a request for information aren't necessarily a bad thing, as evidenced by the success of the WotLK Beta Testing Thread (which is already stickied).

If you feel a thread should be stickied, you may link it as a response to this post, or simply PM a moderator for review.

Thanks!
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Caelia
Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:35 pm
third?
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Sarkan-ZdC
Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:57 am
Did Sombody try out what the "causes high amount of Threat" on our 51 Point Talent means exactly?
Sarkan-ZdC
Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:53 am
From the Worldofwarcraft Forum (Link in the 28/7 Thread)

Tybalt wrote:
Affected by SP only:
- Holy Shield

Affected by AP (or other) only:
- Hammer of the Righteous
- Shield of Righteousness

Affected by AP & SP:
- Avenger's Shield
- Consecration
- Exorcism
- Hammer of Wrath
- Holy Wrath
- Judgment of Light
- Judgment of Wisdom
- Seal of Light
- Seal of the Martyr (Blood)
- Seal of Righteousness
- Seal of Vengeance (Corruption)
- Seal of Wisdom

So we have the following:

SoR
8.27AP = 1DMG
3.85SP = 1DMG

SoV/SoCu
2.86AP = 1DMG
5.92SP = 1DMG

SoB/SoM (top end)
15.14AP = 1DMG
31.06SP = 1DMG

Consecration
3.12AP = 1DMG
3.12SP = 1DMG

JoL
5.63AP = 1DMG
5.77SP = 1DMG

JoW
11.10AP = 1DMG
11.05SP = 1DMG
Sarkan-ZdC
Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:54 am
And his Math for double-checking:

====================
Seal of Righteousness
====================

AP: 522
SP: 0
Tooltip: 68
Actual: 68

AP: 1688
SP: 0
Tooltip: 209
Actual: 219

AP: 522
SP: 497
Tooltip: 197
Actual: 217


====================
Seal of Vengeance
====================

Note: Damage values are listed as a single tick (3 seconds) with a stack of 5 Holy Vengeance, It does not include the extra holy damage per swing.

AP: 522
SP: 0
Tooltip: 182.5
Actual: 183

AP: 1688
SP: 0
Tooltip: 590.83
Actual: 591

AP: 522
SP: 497
Tooltip: 267.5
Actual: 294


====================
Seal of the Martyr
====================

AP: 522
SP: 0
Tooltip: 92-143
Actual: 93/114/142

AP: 1688
SP: 0
Tooltip: 168-219
Actual: 171/191/213

AP: 522
SP: 497
Tooltip: 92-143
Actual: 106/134/158


====================
Consecration
====================

Note: Damage values represent 8 ticks (1 second) for the full duration of Consecration.

AP: 522
SP: 0
Tooltip: 743
Actual: 743

AP: 1688
SP: 0
Tooltip: 1116
Actual: 1117

AP: 522
SP: 497
Tooltip: 902
Actual: 904


====================
Judgment of Light
====================

AP: 522
SP: 0
Tooltip: 97
Actual: 94

AP: 1688
SP: 0
Tooltip: 304
Actual: 313

AP: 522
SP: 497
Tooltip: 183
Actual: 181


====================
Judgment of Wisdom
====================

AP: 522
SP: 0
Tooltip: 47
Actual: 47

AP: 1688
SP: 0
Tooltip: 152
Actual: 152

AP: 522
SP: 497
Tooltip: 92
Actual: 88
Proudfoot
Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:26 am
Does anyone have the scaling formula for Retribution Aura?

I believe it only scales with SP and should be listed there.
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