BS or Eng in WotLK

I saw the post regarding the new goggles, however, I keep hearing about the new BS patterns in WOLTK. Can anyone tell me more about what the BS gear is like? What I mean is are they all BOE craftable or should i be ditching engineering to lvl BS before the expantion? Should i just make freinds with a good BS and tell them they look pretty, or are there equally as good drops in dungeons to use.

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Running an instance with a Pally tank is like having sex, if its a pain in the ass, you arent doing it right.

I in no way want to drop Eng, I just wanted to make sure I didnt need to be a BS to wear the good gear.

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Running an instance with a Pally tank is like having sex, if its a pain in the ass, you arent doing it right.

JC
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The BoE gear isn't the important thing honestly, but instead what do you get as a profession-only bonus?

Blacksmiths get the ability to add at least three sockets to their gear that are unique to them (bracers, gloves and weapon), another socket to belt that they can sell to others as well (Titanium Belt Buckle), and the rumor that armorcrafters will get a 2nd meta socket.

At the same time, the epic Blacksmith Helmet is close enough to the engineering helmet to be fine until you can upgrade in Naxxramas 10-man.

Engineering gets... guns paladins can't use, injectors that are less useful now that you can't chain-pot in combat, a helmet you can upgrade in the first raid dungeon, doesn't-stack-with-enchants addons to gloves, belt, cloak, and motorcycles.

I'm waiting patiently until a more complete list of engineering items comes out, but I'm seeing nothing that we can use that matches 96 extra stamina from extra sockets alone.

Very nice reply, thank you. Now whats this about not chain chugging mana pots?
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Running an instance with a Pally tank is like having sex, if its a pain in the ass, you arent doing it right.

JC, LW, BS, and Enchanting all offer similiar perks, which can be calculated down to the addition of 48-60~ extra stamina if that is what you are going for, or equivalent numbers of other stats.

The engineering perks are more outlandish and probably better for PvP battlegrounds than PvE tanking.

The tailoring and gathering profession perks are fairly weak, but it's better than before where they didn't have any benefit at all.

Alchemy seems weak for PvE, but if the arena usable potion remains in game it will be very strong for PvP.
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http://www.wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Alchemy

A more detailed explanation is there, but basically once you use any potion in combat, you are prevented from using another potion until you go out of combat. This prevents chain-chugging Ironshield potions, haste potions for the melee DPS, and mana potions for the casters.

Overall it's probably not a bad change - encounters don't have to be designed around the idea that every melee is hitting a haste pot as soon as the cooldown comes up, and the developers are handing out mana-back abilities and talents like candy so mana won't be a problem. However, it does make injectors less necessary because the amount of healing or mana potions used will go down.

The announcement of the new goggles was enough to tip me over from "definately dropping Engi for BS" to "keeping Engineering".

Wasn't just the stats themselves, or the nice Stamina trinket, but the implication that mote clouds will be implemented in WotLK. Having blithely gathered about 5 Primal air whilst doing circuits of Nagrind last night, I've been reminded what a powerful advantage that is.
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the question is , does our mote extractor work in northrend or we need to get a new one?
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