Gear Check/Advice Thread (All Specific Advice Requests Here)

Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:46 pm

Thanks Guillex! Those items were pretty much what I've been gunning for. Glad to know I'm on the right track.

On a side note: It's been a bear trying to find someone to do Dodge to cloak. Might just have to wait 'till my buddy gets the defense enchant as I like that better anyways,

randomjibberish

Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:46 pm

http://armorylite.com/us/blackrock/gourmet
(The armory isnt updated and I use the battleworn tuskguard for raid tanking)

[item=28516]Barbed Choker of Discipline[/item]
[item=34680]Shattered Sun Pendant of Resolve[/item]
[item=30099]Frayed Tether of the Drowned[/item]

I currently have the Barbed Choker and the SSO pendant, however the Frayed Tether is obtainable. So a few questions:

1. Between the Barbed Choker and the SSO pendant, which would you prefer, and in which situations?
2. Is the Frayed Tether worth investing DKP in?

Aseirak

Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:59 am

hi may i know what i SHOULD not be tanking apart from BT MH in my current gear.. ...

i know i need to upgrade but loot hasnt been kind to me. thanks for ur help in advance.

but i guess i rarely need to MT anything.. jus asking in case of any scenario.

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/chara ... &n=Aseirak

Kozue

Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:06 am

Anyways, I tried tanking Prince for the 1st time tonight. We wiped 3 times or so, not sure if it was me being undergeared to blame, or what. So far, a full clear of Kara has yielded nothing but gears to our Priest which has been really painful to my gear progression. But anyways... question is:

Am I geared enough to tank Prince, or should I hold back before trying again?
http://armorylite.com/us/Onyxia/Kozue

Radon

Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:54 am

Hello,
- With the latest stuff i got from za, i felt uncomfortable with the decrease in my spell damage (292 unbuffed). So before i test it out in MH, i'd like to get some comments on it. Around what +spell do i need in t6 content ?
(i have t5 helm, t4 shoulders that i can replace with ZA helm&shoulders to increase +spell.)

- Do you suggest pocket watch over aqir artifact ?

- I'm unsure about +spell hit vs +spell crit. Do you suggest me using Amani Punisher or Fang of the Leviathan ?

http://armory.wow-europe.com/character- ... Co&n=Radon

Thanks

Kelaan

Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:23 am

Guillex wrote:(If) You're sitting at 102.4%, but are still 489 defense... You're gonna get critted in raids, bar none.

You are? Wouldn't the crits get pushed off the table as well as the crushes? I had thought that uncrushable implied uncrittable (and not just because most of the uncrushable gear has tons of defense). Anywho, I have a friend who can make me some defense armor kits, which I can replace some of the +8 stam kits I have on things like chest/gloves/feet.

NarfJones

Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:41 am

Kelaan wrote:
Guillex wrote:(If) You're sitting at 102.4%, but are still 489 defense... You're gonna get critted in raids, bar none.

You are? Wouldn't the crits get pushed off the table as well as the crushes? I had thought that uncrushable implied uncrittable (and not just because most of the uncrushable gear has tons of defense). Anywho, I have a friend who can make me some defense armor kits, which I can replace some of the +8 stam kits I have on things like chest/gloves/feet.

Not necessarily. Crits are pushed off the attack table, but with the 10 second duration and cooldown of holy shield, it's impossible to have it up 100% of the time. And since some bosses already hit for half your life, it's not a good idea.

Elvidnir

Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:47 pm

Re: Overall thoughts?

Blindsay wrote:Been a lurker and i finally decided to join

nice to meet everyone, been reading alot of the posts its helped alot with my gear thus far, was just curious if anyone had any addition input to a few things ive come across.

1. My Stats - With kings up and nothing else
17,137HP
492 Defense
19.88% Dodge, 15.68% Parry, 56.28% block (with HS)
102.52 total avoidence (with holy shield up) (without kings its 102.12)
358 spell dmg (400 with wizard oil on my 1h)
5418 Mana

link to armory http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... n=Blindsay

Any suggestions to my MT gear would be apprecaited, i plan on getting the Ring the Drops off of tidewalker in SSC, and the one that drops off the trash in TK, and the necklace from maiden in Kara. Also i have to turn in my furies deck so i can get that card. Those are the upgrades i want to get in the short term, oh and the shield from gruul but it never drops lol.

My trash gear is as follows (still with kings)
14,657HP
500 Defense
18.37% Dodge, 17.31% Parry, 49.37% block (with HS)
96.07% total avoidence, to help with getting mana back
approx 600 spell dmg (with flasks food etc) + Libram of Divine Purpose
6828 Mana

all in all things are comming along well, i enjoy tanking but some key members of my guild hate pally tanks They say my MT gear is not good enough for SSC or TK, hell i have to fight for them to even let me tank in Kara. They say pally tanks arent as good as a Warrior so i get 2nd seat to them even if im substantially better geared. We were wiping on tidewalker alot cause the warrior would lose shield block then get crushed. I just want to help my guild progress further and i feel that i can. But they want me to heal cause thats what pallys do..... ironically enough my tanking gear is better then my healing gear too (+1650ish healing unbuffed)

but yeah any thoughts advice and input would be appreciated, and thanks for taking the time to read this

Your stats are way more than sufficient to tank Kara, and probably fine for most/all of Tier5 content also. Over 17k with Kings only is quite good.

Find a new guild imo.

NarfJones

Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:22 pm

justa wrote:I have been doing t he tankadin thing quite some time now. I have never really looked for advice just caught on to it from a friend of mine that made one. Based it off of his spec and developed my own style of tanking afterwords.

My guild is currently finishing off the tail end of Hyjal and three boss's down in BT everything is going very well. It just seems my toon could be preforming better at times.

Would like a some input on where i should go next gear wise.
I understand there is a MT thread as well but that will not reveal any holes in my current set up and it would be great to have a fresh pair of eyes. Anyhelp that anyone can provide to point me in the right direction would be great. I know this peice of trash toon has some short comings i just don't know where it is or how to fix them.

Currently below is what I'm trying to set up.

1600 + hp un-buffered 22K buffed
500 + defence
70 + ish block (with holy sheild up)
24 dodge
400 + spell damg

The following armory link provided is the main set of gear i run around and do everything in. I do have some other stuff i carry with me. The shoulders i know are not the best in the world but my shield block seems to be adequate and i have the Stone Resolve in reserve as needed. My Next is trash and Karazan ring has to go. other then that i don't know where i should go at this point.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... n&n=Phearr

You're gear is good enough in pretty much every department to finish the progression through BT. I would say more spell damage would be the best idea.

As far as being nitpicky, I would say moving some block around for dodge would be a good idea, just to lessen the strain on you healers.

justa

Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:41 pm

yes my spell damg is lacking. I i was not able to pick up all of the T5 that i would have liked to that would have solved that problem. currently im wanting to push it to about 420ish. Spoken to a few others there is a cap where it is no longer effective? if so what would that cap be.

I have a few pecies that i can toss into for more block Sholders of Stone resolve for example. I much prefer them but these BT sholders gave more stam and a bit more armor to boot i lost a bit of block but i was well over 70% with holy sheild up figerd i could afford it.

Is that not the case? uncrush is uncrush regardless of how much block you have you are still there. Block value however will come higher from Heardend Heart in Hyjal soon i would expect and solve alot of that issue.

Alot of my resoning might sound foolish i have been doing this for a bit over a year pre-bc included. Have rolled 2 diffrent prot pallies both horde and alliance but i have been flying blind.

Befor it was all about geting uncrit and stacking stam. Uncrush was very easy for me to reach. I do have a bit of a threat issue. But i dont know if it is just a rotation problem or if it is my over all spell damg. raid buffed i have about 440ish wich would be about 480 if i reached my target spell damg.

I am open to any sugestions that anyone els might have.

But i fear that i will drop below 15.8K hp unbuffed and that would make me cry.

Blindsay

Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:41 pm

Re: Overall thoughts?

Elvidnir wrote:
Blindsay wrote:Been a lurker and i finally decided to join

nice to meet everyone, been reading alot of the posts its helped alot with my gear thus far, was just curious if anyone had any addition input to a few things ive come across.

1. My Stats - With kings up and nothing else
17,137HP
492 Defense
19.88% Dodge, 15.68% Parry, 56.28% block (with HS)
102.52 total avoidence (with holy shield up) (without kings its 102.12)
358 spell dmg (400 with wizard oil on my 1h)
5418 Mana

link to armory http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... n=Blindsay

Any suggestions to my MT gear would be apprecaited, i plan on getting the Ring the Drops off of tidewalker in SSC, and the one that drops off the trash in TK, and the necklace from maiden in Kara. Also i have to turn in my furies deck so i can get that card. Those are the upgrades i want to get in the short term, oh and the shield from gruul but it never drops lol.

My trash gear is as follows (still with kings)
14,657HP
500 Defense
18.37% Dodge, 17.31% Parry, 49.37% block (with HS)
96.07% total avoidence, to help with getting mana back
approx 600 spell dmg (with flasks food etc) + Libram of Divine Purpose
6828 Mana

all in all things are comming along well, i enjoy tanking but some key members of my guild hate pally tanks They say my MT gear is not good enough for SSC or TK, hell i have to fight for them to even let me tank in Kara. They say pally tanks arent as good as a Warrior so i get 2nd seat to them even if im substantially better geared. We were wiping on tidewalker alot cause the warrior would lose shield block then get crushed. I just want to help my guild progress further and i feel that i can. But they want me to heal cause thats what pallys do..... ironically enough my tanking gear is better then my healing gear too (+1650ish healing unbuffed)

but yeah any thoughts advice and input would be appreciated, and thanks for taking the time to read this

Your stats are way more than sufficient to tank Kara, and probably fine for most/all of Tier5 content also. Over 17k with Kings only is quite good.

Find a new guild imo.

u say id probably fine for most t5 content? is there something i might be lacking to make you hesitate?

Galrond

Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:33 pm

wrynn v. timewarden

Hello,

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... &n=Galrond

I got the Wrynn Dynasty Greaves last week off of Curator... but I haven't gemmed them up or enchanted them or anything. Currently I'm wearing Timewarden's leggings w/3x12stam and 30stam/10agi, and I'd be putting the same on wrynn.

Should I go ahead and use wrynn, and eat the stam loss for the extra armor and avoidance, or should I stay with timewarden? (I'd go for the 2.4 badge leggings but I'm leaning toward the stoic guardian chest as my next badge expense right now tbh)

Saltychip

Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:34 pm

Hey everyone, I'm the Main Tank for my guild and we got a new warrior that joined. I'm not concerned about him taking my spot as I've been in the guild much longer and the GM and everyone really likes me but I don't want to MT bosses when a warrior has better gear than me. Currently his gear upgrades over me are minimal at best. However he does have more health(being a warrior). I'm looking for some direct gear upgrades that I could use that would push me over the top and make me ready until SSC/TK. Currently my guild has gruul on farm along with 10 mans and the 4 avatars in ZA down. We are just waiting for more people to actively do 25 mans. I'm not sure how far my current gear could take me as of now.

Question: Any direct upgrades I should aim for before SSC/TK that would push me over gear on this warrior in my guild?

PS. I have the furies deck which I will be turning in tomorrow and I'll have both Commendations and that trinket but since my threat/aoe set is barely at 102.8% with the moroes watch, I couldn't rish putting both stam trinkets on. However if I put on my AVOIDANCE/STAM gear(iron maiden gloves and moroes belt switching out t4 gloves and belt of guardian). I would be at around 104.8% with both stam trinkets equipped which might put me at close to 15.9-16k unbuffed with lower avoidance/threat though(around 328 SD unbuffed).

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, I'm sorta of in a pickle here...

DMC:Vengeance+ Commendations with Avoidance/stam set for lower threat but more health

or

Commendations+Pocket Watch with threat/aoe set for more threat and decent health(which I currently use).

HELP!

Thanks Smile

EDIT- This is the warrior armory in my guild
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-skil ... agonreborn

This is mine
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... Judginator
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Vdarye

Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:40 pm

My current Prot Set and Spec

Hello, I am a holy pally but I have been getting gear on the side for prot set. I would lilke to switch over to tanking for maybe heroics and if all possible full kara runs. Linked below is what I have gathered so far and looking for possible help on upgrades on what I could get with relative ease.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... r&n=Vdarye

My next thing I am going to work for is the S1 (or if S2 is out by that time) gavel so I can have more spell dmg than my current healing set.

I know there are lots of things I could do better, but lookig for the quickest to upgrade with so I can be suitable for tanking up to kara for now... possibly more as time goes on.

Lunchbox

Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:43 pm

Badge Loot Advice

Hola amigos,

I'm having some trouble figuring out what to get next from either the current badge vendor or to save up for the new badge vendor, which is about a week away on my server.

So I have 51 badges...and with Kara each week and daily heroics...I should have 100 within a weeks period or so.

With all this in mind and my armory link: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... n=Lunchbox

I could use these right now and they'd be a pretty good upgrade:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33516

Or I could wait a little bit and get the: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33522

or wait even longer and get:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34939

My chest piece is by far my weakest slot...but I'm impatient..and those bracers would help with Prince tonight..

Any advice would be very appreciated. Thank you very much for you time.

~LB

xyzor

Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:36 pm

Lunchbox, You are obviously running Kara, so Attumen's Bracers should be available to you soon, so your Chest is the easiest and most efficient spot to gain a big gear-jump via badges. I would say do that first. The Stoic Guardian Chest is the best chest around for us until the end of T5 content (or even T6). The new (2.4) badge chest really isn't the best one out there for us, unless you are painfully short on crush avoidance (and even then, that can be made up in other pieces of gear).

After that, I would say bracers/boots next if you are in a hurry, or look at either the 75 or 100 badges legs (most people will tell you the 100 badges legs for sure, but be your own judge on that based on how fast you get badges and how your other pieces are shaping up). You should also consider the cloak sooner rather than later, although the Devilshark is a VERY good tankadin cloak.