2 stam trinkets in Coliseum-25?

Yes another 2 stam trinkets post.

In Naxx or Ulduar I was always using 1 stam trinket + 1 avoidance one (only used 2 stam trinkets when we were doing Malygos before 3.1).

But actually it seems to me that for the Northrend Beasts and Jaraxxus it maybe be better to use 2 stam trinkets? At least for someone with Ulduar-25 stuff, 4p T8.25 and already good avoidance.

What trinkets are you using in Coliseum-25?

Repeat this mantra over again until you memorize it.

"When i can take 2 hits in a row without dieing i will stack avoidance instead of stamina".

That is true for 90% of the fights and those fights require special gearing besides avoidance.

Seloei wrote:Repeat this mantra over again until you memorize it.

"When i can take 2 hits in a row without dieing i will stack avoidance instead of stamina assuming my healers are not retards".

That is true for 90% of the fights and those fights require special gearing besides avoidance.

Fixed for you.

Seloei wrote:Repeat this mantra over again until you memorize it.

"When i can take 2 hits in a row without dieing i will stack avoidance instead of stamina".

That is true for 90% of the fights and those fights require special gearing besides avoidance.

Well, my point was are we talking of physical hits which can be avoid in Coliseum-25?

Gormork's Impale cause bleed which stack to around 10k every 2 sec after 3 applications. Is Impale damages can be avoid? The 2 Jormungars are doing nature and fire damage. Icehowl is doing a frost breath and I'm not sure his headbutt can be avoid. Can it be? And Jaraxxus is doing magic damages (fire and shadow) too.

So?

All of the abilities you listed can be survived by even a dps, except for maybe fel fireball.
The melee damage in this instance is not worth 2x stam trinkets anymore. The only place where i still use 2x stam trinkets is I choose you Steelbreaker, nowhere else post epic gems.

edit: If you want another reason why to go away from dual stam trinkets, read the gearing guides. There are multiple ways some swear behind 2x stam trinkets, some 1x stam, 1x avoid some 2x avoidance trinkets. There is no golden path, it just depends on what you think is best. Both ways work almost as good yet one is better than the other occasionaly.
So go read the gearing guides, this is not the place to start another 20 page discussion why 2x stamina is so so so much better than stam + avoidance trinkets

stam with clicky avoidance?

Try both, ask your healers which was easier. When we are learning fights I tend to go double stam, since it gives the healers a little more of a buffer and increases ardent defender zone. Once the healers figure their ish out I go stam/avoidance to try and decrease damage taken

Heart of Iron and the JCer trinket both have on use avoidance features (on separate c/ds). Aside from Yogg + 1, I use them for every progression fight. My avoidance isn't spectacular, but if you combine use effects, situational indestructible pots, stoneskin, "Shield Wall", 2 stamina trinkets are never, in my mind, a bad idea. My healers are not retarded- and I still use double stamina trinkets, even though I can take 2 hits back to back and live. No reason to follow a "rule of thumb" like the one above. Know the fights, know your healers, and make an informed decision based on what happens to you individually.

In a world (of warcraft) where all the damage comes in unavoidable bursts, i'm afraid double stamina is the way to go.

Our first Satrina's Impending Scarab we've seen dropped for the alt run, and went to a resto shaman for use in Arena.

I died a little inside.

Joanadark wrote:Our first Satrina's Impending Scarab we've seen dropped for the alt run, and went to a resto shaman for use in Arena.

I died a little inside.

>.<

Joanadark wrote:Our first Satrina's Impending Scarab we've seen dropped for the alt run, and went to a resto shaman for use in Arena.

I died a little inside.

Were there no tanks in the alt run? No way should this have gone to a non tank, alt run or not. I'm hoping the past 4 weeks haven't been a prelude to gear drops. Other than the useless 10 man dodge trinket, we've seen a total of 1 tank item drop so far in main runs. Ulduar was really kind to us in that our tanks geared up really fast, but nothing is dropping but freaking mail and mail, and some more mail.

Speaking of that, isn't the new stamina trinket (mainly the "on use" effect) a bit... meh? I mean, the quarrel is usually about choosing between stamina and avoidance trinkets, and the general consensus was stamina trinktes with "on use" avoidance. Is there anything special about that extra little bit of health, or it's just the sheer amount of passive stamina that this trinket provides?

Loras wrote:Speaking of that, isn't the new stamina trinket (mainly the "on use" effect) a bit... meh? I mean, the quarrel is usually about choosing between stamina and avoidance trinkets, and the general consensus was stamina trinktes with "on use" avoidance. Is there anything special about that extra little bit of health, or it's just the sheer amount of passive stamina that this trinket provides?

It is not "meh". I love Last Stand trinkets.

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Meloree, <Edge>, Garona

Well, the avoidance on-use effects tend to "scale" in a way with how hard the boss hits. 5% more dodge on 6k attacks is nothing special, 5% more dodge on 26k attacks is another story. While this Last Stand effect, even if good in theory, remains static and passively "downscales". If it was a 4.5-5k hp temporary buff on Ulduar normal modes level, then it would've sounded better for me, but at this point... I'm not quit sure.

Not saying the trinket is bad, just trying to find it's usefulness and trying to justify a possible future GP-expense on it