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[10 Heroic] Twin Val'kyr

d503
Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:04 pm

[10 Heroic] Twin Val'kyr

This fight is significantly more complicated on heroic mode, as the damage is quite ramped up, and the colored balls do WAY more damage if the opposite hits you.

We had 3 healers, 2 tanks and 5 DPS and probably only got this to 50% over 5 or so attempts.

One problem we had was that we had uneven DPS on each side, due to how many healers we used. The healing was VERY intensive at times, and I'm not sure if that was a result of the people navigating the encounter improperly, or just the nature of the fight.

We were OK on the side with 3 DPS to get the shield down, but the side with 2 DPS definitely lacked.

We generally had the ranged switching targets when the shield went up to try to get more DPS too, but that could be difficult.

Any advice here?
Meloree
Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:09 pm

Re: [10 Heroic] Twin Val'kyr

We just brute forced it. We clumped up all the dps/heals with one colour on top of each other and just healed through the damage. For breaking the shield... we just got fast swaps, it didn't seem to be a problem. We tanked the twins about 5 yards inside their like-coloured portals, so they were only 15-20 yards apart, the ranged didn't have to move at all, and the melee were right on a portal to swap and move.

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Meloree, <Edge>, Garona
Belloc
Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:18 pm

Re: [10 Heroic] Twin Val'kyr

As far as shields go, it might help to drag the bosses towards each other directly before a special goes off. I'm going to start doing that on our 25-man normals.
d503
Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:23 pm

Re: [10 Heroic] Twin Val'kyr

Meloree wrote:We tanked the twins about 5 yards inside their like-coloured portals, so they were only 15-20 yards apart, the ranged didn't have to move at all, and the melee were right on a portal to swap and move.


What about Power of the Twins?
smeej
Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:46 pm

Re: [10 Heroic] Twin Val'kyr

Does that ability even happen in 10 man? I've not noticed it.

You can brute force. For example, have everyone grab dark and attack Lightbane, on top of a light portal. That way if people have to change to light, it's right there. Then, once light is no longer necessary, dps/healers run over and take dark again. This is important because all the running and swapping is done after the special ability is over. In this example, it's not bad to have one of the ranged or healers stay light and intercept light orbs since there will be a glut of them.
kanst
Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:49 pm

Re: [10 Heroic] Twin Val'kyr

d503 wrote:
Meloree wrote:We tanked the twins about 5 yards inside their like-coloured portals, so they were only 15-20 yards apart, the ranged didn't have to move at all, and the melee were right on a portal to swap and move.


What about Power of the Twins?


What about it? isnt that the buff that the other valkyrie gets when one is shielding
d503
Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:34 pm

Re: [10 Heroic] Twin Val'kyr

kanst wrote:
d503 wrote:
Meloree wrote:We tanked the twins about 5 yards inside their like-coloured portals, so they were only 15-20 yards apart, the ranged didn't have to move at all, and the melee were right on a portal to swap and move.


What about Power of the Twins?


What about it? isnt that the buff that the other valkyrie gets when one is shielding


Power of the Twins - Increases Physical damage done by 20%, hit chance by 20%, and attack speed by 10% for 15 seconds. Used only if Fjola is less than 60 (?) yards from Eydis. Both Twins gain this buff.

Is what I keep seeing. It's definitely rape-on-skates to someone who doesn't have good gear.
kram
Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:26 am

Re: [10 Heroic] Twin Val'kyr

d503 wrote:
Power of the Twins - Increases Physical damage done by 20%, hit chance by 20%, and attack speed by 10% for 15 seconds. Used only if Fjola is less than 60 (?) yards from Eydis. Both Twins gain this buff.


false
Soralin
Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:04 am

Re: [10 Heroic] Twin Val'kyr

I single tanked this in 10mans without any difficulty (although the priest was riding me hard for threat on the one we weren't killing, since I deal reduced damage to him it was hard to generate any meaningful threat).

Wondering whether it would be viable to solo tank it on heroic mode. Thoughts to anybody who has done this fight on heroic? I sit around 52k hp buffed (and) am fairly well geared.
Sober
Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:24 am

Re: [10 Heroic] Twin Val'kyr

A Power of the Twins does come up in 10-Heroic, along with a separate +20% melee haste buff
kram
Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:02 am

Re: [10 Heroic] Twin Val'kyr

Its a buff the one that doesnt have the shield gains, once it gets that buff it also starts stacking a haste buff.
Passionario
Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:32 am

Re: [10 Heroic] Twin Val'kyr

I can confirm that PotT shows up on a Twin while the other one is casting Pact; however, I'm fairly sure that I've also seen it on Twins that were brought too close to each other (usually during a wipe or a botched pull).