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Eanin
Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:52 pm
But with Crusader, the proc rate wasn't diminished, the amount of strength was. Mongoose is still proccing at 120 agility.
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Northrend weapon enchant
agnara
Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:39 pm
All of you are missing an important problem, most of the decent enchants looks horrible. I got my Red Sword of Courage earlier today, and chose to enchanted with potency, only to realise that the the green glow on the enchant didn't fit the weapon at all!
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I think I might be addicted to BV
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I think I might be addicted to BV
Eanin
Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:44 pm
Looks like someone finally got around to testing Lifeward. It's 3 ppm.
On white hits alone, then, it will generate 450 heals per minute, which is 427.5 threat per minute or 7.125 tps. (It's holy, so it does 0.5*1.9 threat per heal).
It probably procs from Shield of Righteousness and Hammer of Righteousness as well, so add maybe another 60% or so to that for 10-11 tps total.
It's not as good as potency then, for threat, but it does heal you. It doesn't heal for as much as battlemaster (which is 1 ppm), but at least it isn't arcane.
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On white hits alone, then, it will generate 450 heals per minute, which is 427.5 threat per minute or 7.125 tps. (It's holy, so it does 0.5*1.9 threat per heal).
It probably procs from Shield of Righteousness and Hammer of Righteousness as well, so add maybe another 60% or so to that for 10-11 tps total.
It's not as good as potency then, for threat, but it does heal you. It doesn't heal for as much as battlemaster (which is 1 ppm), but at least it isn't arcane.
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MrDuck
Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:40 am
Well, i was thinking about mongoose/26agi... Considered 25% uptime on mongoose, it's 30agi on average, , so well, the question for me is, how much harder is 120 agi hit by diminishing returns on dodge than 26agi..any maths about it?
About the randomness, as someone earlier in this thread posted..having random chance to dodge and having random chance to increase the random chance to randomly dodge, well, both is random, luck based, but in theory, mongoose makes the damage income more unstable than agi, and well, our new niche is taking smooth damage without spikes amirite?
On average, before any diminishing returns, mongoose gives on average 0.076923 (want more accuracy? just hope i didnt calc it wrong:P) more dodge, which may very well be less than diminishing returns will cut off the mongoose proc :\
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About the randomness, as someone earlier in this thread posted..having random chance to dodge and having random chance to increase the random chance to randomly dodge, well, both is random, luck based, but in theory, mongoose makes the damage income more unstable than agi, and well, our new niche is taking smooth damage without spikes amirite?
On average, before any diminishing returns, mongoose gives on average 0.076923 (want more accuracy? just hope i didnt calc it wrong:P) more dodge, which may very well be less than diminishing returns will cut off the mongoose proc :\
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Marium
Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:34 pm
Threat is no longer an issue for me, we have dps pulling close to 5K and most of them are a good 3-400k behind me on omen. Mongoose sadly is still my enchant of choice. Its a little under 2% dodge now but its up a large portion of the time. And as well as avoidance with the proc you gain crit so while it isn't constant I still believe it outperforms potency.
Janduin
Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:55 pm
It is.
http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f63/40003-diminishing-returns-avoidance.html
It doesn't matter whether the dodge comes from defense rating, dodge rating, or agility, if it's not from talents and not base (i.e., there when you are naked) it is affected by DR. Procs may not be though, I'm not sure about that.
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http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f63/40003-diminishing-returns-avoidance.html
It doesn't matter whether the dodge comes from defense rating, dodge rating, or agility, if it's not from talents and not base (i.e., there when you are naked) it is affected by DR. Procs may not be though, I'm not sure about that.
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