Majiben
Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:16 pm
We really don't have any better options than the SoV glyph. Also it's not expertise rating but expertise skill. Worth close to 80 expertise rating.

Steelhand wrote:Hey Guys,
I dabble in the tanking arts, as I do in all specs of being Paladin. As such, I have crafted and use a Titansteel Guardian as my healing mace, and have simply adopted it to my Tanking Set as well. Now, I generally managed about 3000-3500 TPS on a Single Target when tanking it. I was under the impression, that due to the slow weapon speed of Guardian, it's still quite powerful when used with HotR, and the added benefits of all that spell power would increase threat generated by Conc, Avengers and the like.
Am I completely off base in this assumption, or is there some level of truth to it?
Would like to know cause I got verbally assaulted by a warrior in Dalaran for "wearing nub gear", and he got under my skin a lil bit.
Steelhand wrote:Good to know. Now would anyone be able to offer some helpful hints to a part timer as to where a Blacksmith with excess money may find a "better" tanking weapon?
Completely devoid of defensive stats.Levantine wrote:Titansteel Destroyer.
AholeyKnight wrote:DK's are limited to bladed weapons only.
So no Titansteel Destroyers for them.
PsiVen wrote:This time around, I changed AS to replace every 4th judgement. It's probably a more realistic implementation of AS into a rotation, and is probably optimal as well but I didn't check.
As predicted, the coefficient nerfs mean that spell power weapons have finally fallen from grace, even with 5/5 SotP. The Titansteel Bonecrusher is now quite certainly (~60 TPS) better than the Guardian.
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Titansteel Bonecrusher N-Target TPS (Stats Value Added)
Single Double Triple
10 STR 19.2 14.8 13.3
15 SBV 11.6 5.8 3.9
20 AP 11.5 9.9 9.4
10 HIT 7.2 4.6 3.7
10 EXP 6.9 5.3 4.8
10 CRIT 5.2 3.3 2.6
12 SP 4.7 3.8 3.5
10 AGI 4.5 2.9 2.3
15 STA 2.2 1.7 1.6
10 HASTE 1.1 0.6 0.4
BASE 3715 2902 2631
In other words, the weighted TPS stat comparison now stands:
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Single Target
STR 100.0%
SBV 60.5%
AP 59.8%
HIT 37.6%
EXP 36.2%
CRIT 26.9%
SP 24.5%
AGI 23.7%
STA 11.2%
HASTE 5.9%
Double Target Per Target
STR 100.0%
AP 66.9%
SBV 39.2%
EXP 36.1%
HIT 30.7%
SP 25.7%
CRIT 22.0%
AGI 19.4%
STA 11.7%
HASTE 3.8%
Triple Target Per Target
STR 100.0%
AP 70.3%
EXP 36.1%
SBV 29.0%
HIT 27.4%
SP 26.2%
CRIT 19.6%
AGI 17.3%
STA 12.0%
HASTE 2.8%
Without regard for other talent points required, here's the direct comparison people were looking for:
Base: 3560.1
SotP: 3715.1
Conviction: 3674.3
Conviction still sucks.
Garath.Gorefiend wrote:Either the above weighting is incorrect or your spreadsheet is wrong